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Menu Talk with Pat and Bret

Menu Talk with Pat and Bret is a collaboration between Restaurant Business senior menu editor Pat Cobe and Bret Thorn, senior food & beverage editor of Nation’s Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality.

US Open chefs, Lebanese wine, and khachapuri variations

Menu Talk: Pat and Bret chat about their latest food and drink discoveries and share an interview with JJ Johnson, TV chef, cookbook author and founder of fast-casual Fieldtrip.

On this week’s podcast, Pat Cobe, senior menu editor of Restaurant Business, and Bret Thorn, senior food & beverage editor of Nation’s Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality, talk about how tennis players aren’t the only stars at the US Open, which kicked off on Monday. There’s a lot of star power off the courts, with more than 20 top New York City restaurants and chefs offering their specialties over the next two weeks.

Pat got a preview of the menu items before the tournament started, tasting Coqodaq’s Golden Nugget topped with caviar, Morimoto’s sushi, David Burke’s coconut shrimp, and the Honey Deuce signature cocktail—a mix of vodka, raspberry liqueur and lemonade topped with honeydew melon balls.

Bret continued to explore his neighborhood, discovering a treasure trove of khachapuri. The cheese-filled breads originated in the country of Georgia and usually are made with an egg on top. Makes for a portable and interesting breakfast. But Bret tried a variation at a small restaurant called Georgian Star that eliminated the egg. The salty cheese filling, much like feta, was simply baked into the center of the crusty bread.

He was also intrigued by a mulberry sauce for sale, which he intends to try someday when he can figure out how to use it.

Pat attended an event that highlighted Lebanese wines from Chateau Ksara in the country’s Bekaa Valley. The whites were light and slightly fruity and the reds were rich and tannic. The tasting took place at the Market 57 food hall in New York City, where Middle Eastern food shop, Sahadi, now has a stall. Sahadi prepared a spread of dips, flatbreads and savory pastries to enjoy with the wines. Although Lebanese wines are not widely available, they are sold at Sahadi’s wine shop in Brooklyn.

Bret also had a chance to try the Notorious B.E.E.F. at Hawksmoor, a steakhouse and cocktail bar. The burger closely resembled a Big Mac, or how Bret imagines a Big Mac should taste. Hawksmoor’s version was layered with two dry-aged smashed beef patties, Velveeta cheese, lettuce, pickles, onion and special sauce on a sesame seed bun. It’s served with fries and a ginger-whiskey cocktail in a frosted mug for $45, but a steakhouse does have better ambiance and service than McDonald’s, perhaps justifying the price.

The podcast guest this week is JJ Johnson, a well-known TV chef, James Beard award-winning cookbook author and founder of Fieldtrip, a fast casual bowl concept that reflects the chef’s Afro-Caribbean roots.

Johnson worked as a fine-dining chef before opening Fieldtrip, which now has four locations, including the newest at the Atlantis Resort in the Bahamas. Johnson started Fieldtrip to bring healthier, affordable restaurant food to his Harlem community. He sources top quality ingredients, including rice from farmers in North Carolina, to curate his rice bowls, which also include fresh vegetables and proteins for a complete meal. All the sauces are made from scratch to give the bowls unique flavor profiles.

Listen as chef and restaurateur Johnson describes his vision for Fieldtrip, his cooking adventures at Martha’s Vineyard and his plans for the future.

About the Authors

Bret Thorn

Senior Food Editor, Nation's Restaurant News

Senior Food & Beverage Editor

Bret Thorn is senior food & beverage editor for Nation’s Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality for Informa’s Restaurants and Food Group, with responsibility for spotting and reporting on food and beverage trends across the country for both publications as well as guiding overall F&B coverage. 

He is the host of a podcast, In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn, which features interviews with chefs, food & beverage authorities and other experts in foodservice operations.

From 2005 to 2008 he also wrote the Kitchen Dish column for The New York Sun, covering restaurant openings and chefs’ career moves in New York City.

He joined Nation’s Restaurant News in 1999 after spending about five years in Thailand, where he wrote articles about business, banking and finance as well as restaurant reviews and food columns for Manager magazine and Asia Times newspaper. He joined Restaurant Hospitality’s staff in 2016 while retaining his position at NRN. 

A magna cum laude graduate of Tufts University in Medford, Mass., with a bachelor’s degree in history, and a member of Phi Beta Kappa, Thorn also studied traditional French cooking at Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine in Paris. He spent his junior year of college in China, studying Chinese language, history and culture for a semester each at Nanjing University and Beijing University. While in Beijing, he also worked for ABC News during the protests and ultimate crackdown in and around Tiananmen Square in 1989.

Thorn’s monthly column in Nation’s Restaurant News won the 2006 Jesse H. Neal National Business Journalism Award for best staff-written editorial or opinion column.

He served as president of the International Foodservice Editorial Council, or IFEC, in 2005.

Thorn wrote the entry on comfort food in the Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America, 2nd edition, published in 2012. He also wrote a history of plated desserts for the Oxford Companion to Sugar and Sweets, published in 2015.

He was inducted into the Disciples d’Escoffier in 2014.

A Colorado native originally from Denver, Thorn lives in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Bret Thorn’s areas of expertise include food and beverage trends in restaurants, French cuisine, the cuisines of Asia in general and Thailand in particular, restaurant operations and service trends. 

Bret Thorn’s Experience: 

Nation’s Restaurant News, food & beverage editor, 1999-Present
New York Sun, columnist, 2005-2008 
Asia Times, sub editor, 1995-1997
Manager magazine, senior editor and restaurant critic, 1992-1997
ABC News, runner, May-July, 1989

Education:
Tufts University, BA in history, 1990
Peking University, studied Chinese language, spring, 1989
Nanjing University, studied Chinese language and culture, fall, 1988 
Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine, Cértificat Elémentaire, 1986

Email: [email protected]

Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bret-thorn-468b663/
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Twitter: @foodwriterdiary
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